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Cylon · Nov 24, 2007, 03:18 PM // 15:18

Iam wondering if there are any PvP or PvE heals that are great when you are being attacked. (I know healing sig isnt good to use when your being attacked because by the time its over your dead or got no health out of it.)

Note: Please no asshole remarks like mending heal area or arguing that heal sig is just so "leet". ~Cylon

Deadly Panda · Nov 24, 2007, 03:59 PM // 15:59

You could try to use Lions Comfort, but it requires adrenaline ^^

Crom The Pale · Nov 24, 2007, 04:54 PM // 16:54

There are many ways for a war to heal, its all dependant on the type of healing you want and what your attribute layout is as well as your secondary.

For a war you basically have 3 choices for self healling.
[skill]Healing signet[/skill][skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill][skill]"Victory is Mine!"[/skill]
If your under attack and wish to use Healing signet then you need to run a cover skill like [skill]Wary Stance[/skill] or even [skill]Protective Spirit[/skill]

If your running Monk secondary your mostly looking at condition removal rather than healing since you cant put enough points in Healing Prayers to out heal Healing signet or lions cumfort.

I find one of the best heals for a war in PvE is with dervish secondary.
[skill]Vital Boon[/skill][skill]Signet of Pious Light[/skill]
It takes 2 skill slots but does give you fantastic healing.

Other than that your basically just hoping your monk or rit will think to send a heal your way in the middle of a battle

Tyla · Nov 24, 2007, 04:56 PM // 16:56

healing signet,'nuff said.
just kite out of range,and then use it and it should be alright.
although if your fighting,depending on your build lions comfort might get you far although it disables signets.

Savio · Nov 24, 2007, 05:23 PM // 17:23

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

[skill]"Victory is Mine!"[/skill]
If your under attack and wish to use Healing signet then you need to run a cover skill like [skill]Wary Stance[/skill] or even [skill]Protective Spirit[/skill]

If your running Monk secondary your mostly looking at condition removal rather than healing since you cant put enough points in Healing Prayers to out heal Healing signet or lions cumfort.

I find one of the best heals for a war in PvE is with dervish secondary.
[skill]Vital Boon[/skill][skill]Signet of Pious Light[/skill]
It takes 2 skill slots but does give you fantastic healing.

Horrible advice.

Use Lion's Comfort or let others heal you.

Stormlord Alex · Nov 24, 2007, 05:35 PM // 17:35

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Originally Posted by Savio

Use Lion's Comfort or let others heal you.

What this dude says.
If you're under heavy fire, no self-heal will really help. If you're not under heavy fire, you don't need a self-heal tbh, or Healsig can patch you up.
Monks exist for a reason.

I've not brought a self-heal on my warrior in absolutely ages. There's far too many good skills to bring in them 8 slots to take a marginally useful skill instead.

Coloneh · Nov 24, 2007, 06:06 PM // 18:06

Healsig. if you arent comfortable with when to use it and how to kite, bring a cover stance.
others may say Lion's, but it just has to many drawbacks. the adrenaline requirement means you cant use it twice in a row, which is one of the huge advantages to healsig. you can spam it while your monks are busy.

Qdq Swi · Nov 24, 2007, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

What this dude says.
If you're under heavy fire, no self-heal will really help. If you're not under heavy fire, you don't need a self-heal tbh, or Healsig can patch you up.
Monks exist for a reason.

I've not brought a self-heal on my warrior in absolutely ages. There's far too many good skills to bring in them 8 slots to take a marginally useful skill instead.

/Agree

In PvE get hero monks to heal you and in RA hope for a monk. In high-end PvP you'l get monks anyway... Or resto rits.

xReLx · Nov 24, 2007, 06:41 PM // 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

There are many ways for a war to heal, its all dependant on the type of healing you want and what your attribute layout is as well as your secondary.

For a war you basically have 3 choices for self healling.
[skill]Healing signet[/skill][skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill][skill]"Victory is Mine!"[/skill]
If your under attack and wish to use Healing signet then you need to run a cover skill like [skill]Wary Stance[/skill] or even [skill]Protective Spirit[/skill]

If your running Monk secondary your mostly looking at condition removal rather than healing since you cant put enough points in Healing Prayers to out heal Healing signet or lions cumfort.

I find one of the best heals for a war in PvE is with dervish secondary.
[skill]Vital Boon[/skill][skill]Signet of Pious Light[/skill]
It takes 2 skill slots but does give you fantastic healing.

Other than that your basically just hoping your monk or rit will think to send a heal your way in the middle of a battle

/facepalm

Sorry,but just leave it to the monks

iridescentfyre · Nov 24, 2007, 10:33 PM // 22:33

No self-heal that Warriors have access to is going to heal more than just a bit of extra damage or degen. It doesn't matter if you're trying to heal yourself with 9 Tactics or 12 Healing Prayers, any real damage will require a monk to heal anyway so really you're best off sticking with Healing Signet or Lion's Comfort.

Its not that anyone thinks Healing Signet is amazing or l337 or anything, but the advantages are hard to ignore. Its a huge heal (by self heal standards), free, and has a short recharge. Perhaps most important, it doesn't require you to dump massive points into Healing Prayers or Earth Prayers or whatever. There's always going to be those who preach that self heals are required, but that's only conditionally true. Even if you have a self heal, your monks are doing most of the work anyway.

street peddler · Nov 25, 2007, 02:37 AM // 02:37

go dervish secondary and use some of their super-powered heals

like [skill]vital boon[/skill] + [skill]signet of pious light[/skill]

[skill]natural healing[/skill]

[skill]Dwayna's Touch[/skill]

Dr Strangelove · Nov 25, 2007, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Well, if it's AB a self heal isn't *entirely* a bad plan. Sticking [skill]harrier's haste[/skill][skill]natural healing[/skill][skill]rending touch[/skill] works fairly nicely in AB or somesuch.

If you're in a group though, let monks babysit your red bar.

Draginvry · Nov 25, 2007, 04:47 AM // 04:47

Not many good self heals for a warrior. The only ones I'm fond of are [skill]natural healing[/skill] and [skill]ether feast[/skill]. But if you're using them it probably means you are gimping your Tactics, so you'd better have a good reason for doing so.

yum · Nov 25, 2007, 07:51 AM // 07:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

There are many ways for a war to heal, its all dependant on the type of healing you want and what your attribute layout is as well as your secondary.

For a war you basically have 3 choices for self healling.
[skill]Healing signet[/skill][skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill][skill]"Victory is Mine!"[/skill]
If your under attack and wish to use Healing signet then you need to run a cover skill like [skill]Wary Stance[/skill] or even [skill]Protective Spirit[/skill]

If your running Monk secondary your mostly looking at condition removal rather than healing since you cant put enough points in Healing Prayers to out heal Healing signet or lions cumfort.

I find one of the best heals for a war in PvE is with dervish secondary.
[skill]Vital Boon[/skill][skill]Signet of Pious Light[/skill]
It takes 2 skill slots but does give you fantastic healing.

Other than that your basically just hoping your monk or rit will think to send a heal your way in the middle of a battle

thx for your advice. Now I don't need mending anymore.

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 25, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20

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Originally Posted by Draginvry

The only ones I'm fond of are [skill]natural healing[/skill] and [skill]ether feast[/skill].

Ether Feast? That's a new one. Still sucks though. No point putting ~8 points into Inspiration Magic for a Self-heal, especially because you won't use it very much (unless you suck), or because Strength has a decent self-heal in LC, which also has the possible shield requirement bonus, and because it takes 1 second longer to use than [wiki]"Save Yourselves!"[/wiki].

netniwk · Nov 25, 2007, 08:22 AM // 08:22

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Ether Feast? That's a new one. Still sucks though. No point putting ~8 points into Inspiration Magic for a Self-heal, especially because you won't use it very much (unless you suck), or because Strength has a decent self-heal in LC, which also has the possible shield requirement bonus, and because it takes 1 second longer to use than [wiki]"Save Yourselves!"[/wiki].

I think they are talking about PvP,No warrior should carry a self-heal in Pve.

Reinfire · Nov 25, 2007, 01:01 PM // 13:01

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Originally Posted by netniwk

I think they are talking about PvP,No warrior should carry a self-heal in Pve.

/disagree

Basically all of my PvE is done with 3 heroes and 4 henchmen, and bot monks tend to get themselves killed a lot, doesnt really matter how you set their skill bars. With one or both monks down a strong self-heal (I use vital boon + signet of pious light) can really save the day. When you are in an organised full-human team self-heal may be less needed but with hench party its allways nice to have

Crom The Pale · Nov 25, 2007, 02:44 PM // 14:44

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Originally Posted by Savio

Horrible advice.

Use Lion's Comfort or let others heal you.

I wasnt telling him to use those skills, I was listing them as the War skills that do grant you healing.

If you read my post maybe you would actually understand what I said but I guess you just looked at the pics and jumped to the "lets flame this guy" stage.

ax mastery · Nov 25, 2007, 04:20 PM // 16:20

In pvp, just don't carry a self heal (Exception may be ab? And gvg's if you plan to split a lot without a monk or runner). But most of the time, just pack 8 skills on your bar for killing shit and let your utility stuff save you when you get attacked (shock, dchop, etc). I always play without self healing in ra, and usually im alive long enough to kill a couple people even if we don't have a monk. If you do have a monk, you tear open the other team. Just go 13 str 14 weap and start winning.

Edit-when i say 8 skills for killing, i mean 7 skills and a res sig.

Savio · Nov 25, 2007, 04:22 PM // 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by netniwk

I think they are talking about PvP,No warrior should carry a self-heal in Pve.

Those suck in PvP too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reinfire

/disagree

Basically all of my PvE is done with 3 heroes and 4 henchmen, and bot monks tend to get themselves killed a lot, doesnt really matter how you set their skill bars. With one or both monks down a strong self-heal (I use vital boon + signet of pious light) can really save the day. When you are in an organised full-human team self-heal may be less needed but with hench party its allways nice to have

I had healsig on my bar for months without ever using it. Eventually I dropped it in favor of a more useful skill. There shouldn't be a reason why you need a self-heal unless you're in a PuG.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

I wasnt telling him to use those skills, I was listing them as the War skills that do grant you healing.

If you read my post maybe you would actually understand what I said but I guess you just looked at the pics and jumped to the "lets flame this guy" stage.

Suggesting stuff he should never use is pointless and bad advice. It's not like I have difficulty understanding the depth of thought behind suggesting Wary Stance.